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All 110v ATC Systems are currently shipping within a few business days to a week!
220v ATC Systems will ship upon arrival of another large batch of motors in mid/late October.Learn all about newest product via our ATC Annoucement
PwnCNC's ATC Systems are done right. They are packed with lots of features as well as high quality parts from manufacturers we truly believe in. We know you'll like this system for your hobby cnc as much as we do.
We've spent more than a year developing the perfect ATC System for our hobby CNC machines. Every ATC System is fully tested and includes the highest quality parts to make your experience as plug-n-play as is humanly possible. All of our cables are properly shielded and drained to reduce electrical noise. We add a special EMI Power Inlet Filter to our VFD enclosure which ensures high voltage wiring is safely hidden inside.
Details:
- Multiple 4-bearing 4-pole motor options are available:
- 2Hp 1.5kw 110v 80mm Water-Cooled
- 3Hp 2.2kw 220v 80mm Water-Cooled
- Motors use ISO20 tool holders with ER20 collets
- 1.5kw 110v Motors draw 12A while 2.2kw 220v Motors draw 10A
- Our Metal-capable ATC Motors are 4-pole motors with speeds up to 24k RPMs
- RPM can be fully controlled by your G-code no matter which machine you own via PWM or Modbus "Automatic Control".
- Automatic tool changing features are limited CNC controllers that can support it. We are researching various ATC capable controllers. Currently documented is the Masso Controller.
- Manual tool changing feature is available on every CNC controller. This is where you're pushing a button to change tools by hand.
What's Included with our Full ATC Systems?
- Pre-wired and Pre-programmed VFD with our latest v5 Enclosure design.
- Detachable keypad with dial speedometer (extendable via cat5 cable and keypad mount, not included)
- US Power Cord (either 110v 5-15P or 220v L6-20P)
- includes "Quiet mode" (which means the VFD's fan turns on only when needed)
- PWM and Modbus automatic control capabilities (controlled through g-code programming)
- 20mo manufacturer's warranty on VFD
- Expertly engineered Pneumatics Enclosure
- 3 regulators are housed within this enclosure. 2 are for the tool changing operation with a third available for a "future improvement".
- US Power Cord 110v 5-15P is included.
- ATC Motor with 4-sealed ceramic angular bearings and 4-poles
- 1.5kw w/ISO20-ER20, 110v, 80mm diameter round body, 0-24000rpms
- 2.2kw w/ISO20-ER20, 220v, 80mm diameter round body, 0-24000rpms
- 20' Hand Crafted Plug-n-Play Spindle Power Cable and Sensor Cable included. If you'd like longer cables, checkout our Extension Cables. Sensor cable extensions available here.
- (3) Matching Collets to hold the most common bit sizes
- for ER20: 1/8", (2) 1/4", and 1/2" (more ER20 Collets here, and here [Collet nut not compatible])
- (4) ISO20 Tool Holders additional tool holders available separately
- (4) Flush Tool Racks additional and alternative racks are available separately.
- (2) ISO20 Wrenches (one for shaft, another for collet nut)
- MTC (Manual Tool Change [pneumatics assisted]) button and safety wire are included
- Pneumatic Tubes
- Kool Connectors
- Note: For Masso controller owners, we provide the inlet and instructions for wiring it into your controller available here.
What's included in our ATC Upgrade and who is eligible?
- Only our original traditional spindle system/kit purchasing customers are eligible. Be prepared to supply an order number when selecting this option.
- Free VFD V5 Upgrade. Only with ATC can you go from 110v to 220v or vice versa with this upgrade. There is no discount if you already have a V5.
- Expertly engineered Pneumatics Enclosure
- 3 regulators are housed within this enclosure. 2 are for the tool changing operation with a third available for a "future improvement".
- US Power Cord 110v 5-15P is included.
- ATC Motor with 4-sealed ceramic angular bearings and 4-poles
- 1.5kw w/ISO20-ER20, 110v, 80mm diameter round body, 0-24000rpms
- 2.2kw w/ISO20-ER20, 220v, 80mm diameter round body, 0-24000rpms
- (3) Matching Collets to hold the most common bit sizes
- for ER20: 1/8", (2) 1/4", and 1/2" (more ER20 Collets here, and here [Collet nut not compatible])
- (4) ISO20 Tool Holders additional tool holders available separately
- (4) Flush Tool Racks additional and alternative racks are available separately.
- (2) ISO20 Wrenches (one for shaft, another for collet nut)
- MTC (Manual Tool Change [pneumatics assisted]) Button and Safety Wire are Included
- Pneumatic Tubes
- Kool Connectors
- For Masso Controller Owners, we provide the inlet and instructions for wiring it to your controller available here
- After the VFD Upgrade, validate the following settings before turning on spindle. VFD Upgrade Parameters
What's Not Included:
- H20 (80mm frame) Spindle Cable (Only if utilizing Upgrade path)
- 12' Hand Crafted Plug-n-Play Control Cable sold separately (auto-added in drop down).
- Cooling pump or chiller available in the water-cooled dropdown selection. They come with a single 30' length of your choice of Superthane or Silicone tubing (When in doubt choose the Superthane, you'll be glad you did.). If 30' is enough, and you require 40', just purchase the additional 10' at the time of your Cooling System and you'll receive a 40' piece. (Chiller only available in 110v. Pond pump available in 110v or 220v for international customers)
- Coolant liquid (either mix of antifreeze/distilled-water or window washer fluid is recommended)
- Reservoir bucket which will be filled with coolant and the included pump will be submerged into. (a 4gal bucket is the perfect size.)
- Air Compressor capable of supplying 95psi of dry air pressure is required but not included.
- Pneumatic Air Dryer and you can expect to spend $100+ on one at Amazon.
Additional Documentation: https://support.pwncnc.com/kb/section/55/
Applies to All Machines (Masso and others alike)
Inventory
Mounting your VFD/PE
Variable Frequency Drive (VFD)
Pneumatics Enclosure (PE)
Spindle Location
Coolant Options
Kool Connectors
ISO20 Install (lower video)
Spindle Warmup
Installation Information Masso Equipped Machines
Onefinity Elite & Masso G3 Touch
Spindle Installation
Masso Inlet Installation
Programming of ATC in Masso
Not Supported for full ATC Functionality, and Limited to MTC
Onefinity (Buildbotics Controller)
Shapeoko 5/Pro (Warthog Installation)
All Shapeoko's
Sienci Longboard
Other PWM Controllers
C4N Controller
C4N Demon
Openbuilds
X-Carve
Avid Controller
FAQ
Will this work with my controller?
If you’re using a different brand CNC controller than the Masso Touch or G3, while it may be ATC capable, we can only provide limited guidance on how our ATC System works. We are unable to provide full plug-n-play instructions for other brand controllers. Ultimately it is your responsibility to ensure compatibility and integrate the two systems together.
We are unable to make any guarantee that our ATC system will work with any other CNC controller except for the ones we directly support.
What are the power requirements?
You'll need to provide one of two types of power depending on which motor you choose:
110v: https://support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/18-what-you-ll-need-to-power-your-1-5kw-110v-spindle-system/
220v: https://support.pwncnc.com/kb/article/15-what-you-ll-need-to-power-your-2-2kw-220v-spindle-system/
What type and how many bearings are part of the ATC motors?
Both of our ATC motors have 4 sealed ceramic angular bearings for long life and efficiency.
I have a Shapeoko with a BitSetter, can I continue to use it?
Short answer is yes... during the MTC tool change... after inserting the new tool-holder with the desired bit preinstalled, you'll hit continue in the software and proceed with the BitSetter operation of measuring the bit before continuing with your carving.
Why does it cost so much?
ATC's are an industrial product that we've made available for hobby CNC machinists like yourself. It has taken us a full year to develop, engineer, and perfect all of the components of this rather complicated system. It's also worth noting that PwnCNC is a small company bringing innovative and unique products to the market. We don't have millions or even tens of thousands to order pallet loads of supplies all at once. We've also poured our knowledge into this ATC System with features not found anywhere else. The testing, integration and wiring work takes time.
What is the runout of our motors?
According to our motor manufacturer, runout of our Spindles is 0.01mm (High accuracy).
Can I carve mild-steel?
Short answer... yes. Our ATC motors are all both Metalworking motors easily capable of carving aluminum and yes... even mild steel. Our typical Woodworking motors are 2-pole 400Hz motors that have a usable range between 8000-24000 RPMs. However we wanted to bring you the best ATC motor option available. Thus both of our ATC motors are 4-pole 800Hz motors that provide the higher torque at lower RPMs which is required for Metalworking. Learn about one customers experience here.
What if I need cables and pneumatic hoses totaling for a 30' run (4x8 machine)?
Send us an email to support@pwncnc.com, and we'll create a custom invoice for you for a 30' hose and cable package at a $200 surcharge in addition to your order.
Notices and Warnings:
- Note that you're responsible for the shipping of your VFD from your location to PwnCNC (225 Grant Pl, Suite C, Lowell, AR 72758). This way you can schedule it and decide which shipper you'd like to use.
- FYI: International orders, there's a $2500(US) limit on shipments, so your ATC and any accessories you order with it will be split into two different shipments.
- For those purchasing the Upgrade ATC System... the included free VFD Enclosure upgrade is only available to original verified owners of our Spindle System. Please be prepared to provide your original order number if asked. If you purchased our Spindle System second-hand, you'll have to also purchase the VFD Enclosure upgrade which is sold separately if your VFD is anything other than v5.
- Our ATC System is more than capable of plugging into a large variety of CNC machines for the purposes of MTC functionality. We are working on documenting all ATC-Capable CNC machines in order to fully support "them all". However we can't possibly own every single one, so we've listed the controllers we do own and support so you'll experience the most plug-n-play system we can provide. If you have a controller not listed in the options above... it will work but there may be some required research or working with the manufacturer to determine if they support a plug-n-play ATC/Spindle such as ours. You can find additional information on hooking up our ATC System into your CNC Controller here: https://support.pwncnc.com/kb/section/30/
- Onefinity Black-Box controllers should be upgraded to firmware 1.3 or greater to receive the best experience. Although not capable of full ATC functionality, this and many other CNC Controllers are cable of our MTC functionality.
- Shapeoko 5 Pro's Warthog controller has an extremely poor quality PWM signal. Plugging into their Spindle port will result in incorrect RPM commands coming from the controller. An ICSP header is available within the controller that provides a cleaner PWM signal. We have designed a pigtail (purchased separately) that is working great in our testing.
- There is a difference between the Onefinity Elite control cable and the Masso G3 control cable. All Onefinity Elites have a Masso, but not all Masso's are on a Onefinity Elite. If you have an Onefinity Elite, pick that.
Reach out to us via support@pwncnc.com if you have further questions.
